Notable #5 Picks
So, we all know by know that the Celtics got completely hosed with the #5 pick... or did they? I took a look at the #5 picks over the years, and the results may surprise you. For example, Dwayne Wade and Charles Barkley might not put each other in their five, but they were both drafted fifth. Without further ado, here we go.
FIRST TEAM (Hall of Famers/Future Hall of Famers)
Dwayne Wade (2003)
Walt Frazier (1967)
Charles Barkley (1984)
Scottie Pippen (1987)
Kevin Garnett (1995)
SECOND TEAM (Could-Be Hall of Famers, maybe)
Sidney Moncrief (1979)
Mitch Richmond (1988)
Vince Carter (1998)
Ray Allen (1996)
THIRD TEAM (Very Good Players)
Darryl Dawkins (1975)
Steve Smith (1991)
Kendall Gill (1990)
Jason Richardson (2001)
Mike Miller (2000)
FOURTH TEAM (Decent Role Players)
Tony Battie (1997)
Shelden Williams (2006)
Raymond Felton (2005)
Devin Harris (2004)
Purvis Short (1978)
Walter Davis (1977)
The All Funny Name Team
Tom Thacker (1963) (sounds like a term for masterbation, i.e. "He's sort of a loser, he just hangs out with Tom Thacker all day, if you know what I mean.")
Wayne Yates (1961) (probably received 10,012 wedgies for the name alone)
Dick "Skull" Barnett (1959) (cool nickname)
LaPhonso Ellis (1992) (only LaPhonso I've ever heard of)
Mahdi Abdul-Rahman, formerly Walter Hazzard (1964) (sweet name change)
The Um... Ok, Whatever Team
Kenny Walker (1986)
Sidney Green (1983)
LaSalle Thompson (1982)
Danny Vranes (1981)
Wally Walker (1976)
James Ray (1980)
The Infamous Team
Isaiah Rider (1993) (crime)
Juwan Howard (1994) (scandal, being a dick)
Kermit Washington (1973) (fracturing Rudy T's face)
J.R. Reid (1989) (mediocre manwhore of the NBA)
The All BP-Never-Heard-of-Them Team
Freddie Boyd (1975)
Bobby Jones (1974)
George Trapp (1971)
Sam Lacey (1970)
Larry Cannon (1969)
Jack Marin (1966)
Dave Stallworth (1965)
Len Chappell (1962)
Guy Rodgers (1958)
The Dear-God-the-Celtics-Are-Friggin-SCREWED Team
Don Smith (1968) (doesn't even have a page on Basketball-Reference.com!!!)
Nikoloz Tskitishvili (2002) (mutant)
Jonathan Bender (1999) (broken)
Lee Shaffer (1960) (three seasons of crappiness)
Joe Koncak (1985) (guaranteed to suck just from the name alone)
In conclusion and in summary, the Celtics could potentially draft a Hall of Famer. The trend appears to be that the fifth pick is usually used for a well-regarded, solid guard. The number of swing players taken with the fifth pick is staggering. It's rare to nab a quality big, which is what the Celtics are probably looking to do.
The fifth pick is not where the Celtics would like to be, but I would match that first team against pretty much any other group of same-number picks, including #1's. This is supposed to be a very deep draft, so who knows, perhaps the C's will find the next Charles Barkley... or the first age-unknown skinny Chinese dude shrouded in mystery.
FIRST TEAM (Hall of Famers/Future Hall of Famers)
Dwayne Wade (2003)
Walt Frazier (1967)
Charles Barkley (1984)
Scottie Pippen (1987)
Kevin Garnett (1995)
SECOND TEAM (Could-Be Hall of Famers, maybe)
Sidney Moncrief (1979)
Mitch Richmond (1988)
Vince Carter (1998)
Ray Allen (1996)
THIRD TEAM (Very Good Players)
Darryl Dawkins (1975)
Steve Smith (1991)
Kendall Gill (1990)
Jason Richardson (2001)
Mike Miller (2000)
FOURTH TEAM (Decent Role Players)
Tony Battie (1997)
Shelden Williams (2006)
Raymond Felton (2005)
Devin Harris (2004)
Purvis Short (1978)
Walter Davis (1977)
The All Funny Name Team
Tom Thacker (1963) (sounds like a term for masterbation, i.e. "He's sort of a loser, he just hangs out with Tom Thacker all day, if you know what I mean.")
Wayne Yates (1961) (probably received 10,012 wedgies for the name alone)
Dick "Skull" Barnett (1959) (cool nickname)
LaPhonso Ellis (1992) (only LaPhonso I've ever heard of)
Mahdi Abdul-Rahman, formerly Walter Hazzard (1964) (sweet name change)
The Um... Ok, Whatever Team
Kenny Walker (1986)
Sidney Green (1983)
LaSalle Thompson (1982)
Danny Vranes (1981)
Wally Walker (1976)
James Ray (1980)
The Infamous Team
Isaiah Rider (1993) (crime)
Juwan Howard (1994) (scandal, being a dick)
Kermit Washington (1973) (fracturing Rudy T's face)
J.R. Reid (1989) (mediocre manwhore of the NBA)
The All BP-Never-Heard-of-Them Team
Freddie Boyd (1975)
Bobby Jones (1974)
George Trapp (1971)
Sam Lacey (1970)
Larry Cannon (1969)
Jack Marin (1966)
Dave Stallworth (1965)
Len Chappell (1962)
Guy Rodgers (1958)
The Dear-God-the-Celtics-Are-Friggin-SCREWED Team
Don Smith (1968) (doesn't even have a page on Basketball-Reference.com!!!)
Nikoloz Tskitishvili (2002) (mutant)
Jonathan Bender (1999) (broken)
Lee Shaffer (1960) (three seasons of crappiness)
Joe Koncak (1985) (guaranteed to suck just from the name alone)
In conclusion and in summary, the Celtics could potentially draft a Hall of Famer. The trend appears to be that the fifth pick is usually used for a well-regarded, solid guard. The number of swing players taken with the fifth pick is staggering. It's rare to nab a quality big, which is what the Celtics are probably looking to do.
The fifth pick is not where the Celtics would like to be, but I would match that first team against pretty much any other group of same-number picks, including #1's. This is supposed to be a very deep draft, so who knows, perhaps the C's will find the next Charles Barkley... or the first age-unknown skinny Chinese dude shrouded in mystery.
posted by BP at
10:57 PM
9 Comments:
Honest to God,
I threw up in my mouth when they announced us as the fifth pick. The guy grimaced, said "The fifth pick goes to, The Boston Celtics"... they showed Tommy give the "Oh that's just fucking dandy" look, then I vomited in my mouth. I fucking hate God.
Peisch, I think we need to come up with a name for the curse that has come over the Celtics. no one has a good name yet, but if this isn't a curse, i don't know WHAT is. GOD DAMN BASKETBALL! now i have to go another year of not watching the NBA.
i once bought a pack of basketball cards from owen's news in abington, ma. this was when i was in approximately 2nd grade. i opened the pack up with the same hope and anticipation that i had before last night's lottery. sure enough, do to a factory screw-up, or possibly just the chronic bad luck that i've been experiencing with basketball over the past, say, my entire life, i got three john koncak cards stuck together, and 4 craig ehlos. they threw in a sedale threatt to sweeten up the deal and that was it. oh yeah, and there were supposed to be 10 cards in a pack. add that up. only 8.
i think i cried. like last night.
Guy Rodgers was an excellent NBA point guard.
Bobby Jones was 8 times all-defense 1st team, he played with David Thompson in Denver and Dr. J. in Philly.
Don Smith changed his name to Zaid Abdul-Aziz. He was mediocre.
Sam Lacey and Jack Marin were average (Marin) or above-average (Lacey) NBA players.
j.r. reid? manwhore? i don't think i get it. or did i miss somethings abouts jr reid when he was playing?
nice work. little trivia. tom thacker is the only guy to win an ncaa, nba and aba championship.
Hm,
Thanks for the info. I was writing it late at night and once it got to the early 70's... I stopped even TRYING to remember those guys.
Buton,
J.R. Reid was lobbing it to every team in the league. Actually, I checked Basketball-Reference, and he only played for 6 teams, I guess, but there was one period where it seemed like he was on every team the Celtics were playing against. So, perhaps "Manwhore" is harsh, but I'm not too worried about it!
Josh Q,
GREAT nugget about Tom Thacker!
Also, I thought this sweet-ass trade was hilarious for various reasons when I was doing my JR Reid research of a moment ago... (via Wikipedia, of course)
"(JR Reid was) Traded by Milwaukee with Robert Traylor to Cleveland Cavaliers as part of three-team deal on June 27, 2000 (Golden State Warriors received Vinny Del Negro from Milwaukee and Bob Sura from Cleveland; Milwaukee received Jason Caffey and Billy Owens from Golden State)."
Sorry that i douted you about JR Reid. manhWhore he was! LOL
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